tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post4313711069775363779..comments2024-03-25T09:11:17.877-07:00Comments on The Curious Wavefunction: It's Clay Time: The Origins of "Silicon-Based" LifeWavefunctionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14993805391653267639noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-33135474490252951512009-07-06T10:02:34.037-07:002009-07-06T10:02:34.037-07:00I don't understand the purpose of the question...I don't understand the purpose of the questioner who uses "intelligent designer?" Do you know of any other kind of a designer, a non-intelligent one or is that just some subtle way in trying to say that because intelligence is involved in the expirement, then, life must have had intelligence involved to get it started? If that's the case, you must understand that involvement is necessary to SIMULATE various possible or hypothized conditions during the starting of life process. Such conditions, as stated by Ashutosh, could be heat, acidity, radiation, catalysts, etc... <br /><br />Again, let us not add superstition to a scientific quest, here! If we are to hint to the presence of intelligence at the start of life, then, life started much more prior to that point, and we must understand or explain where that intelligence came from. Was it another humanoid-like extraterrestrial being? Or was it here? If so, what happened to it?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00171160268131644640noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-84483522697709282872008-04-28T13:49:00.000-07:002008-04-28T13:49:00.000-07:00Thanks very much for the Kahr references. I was no...Thanks very much for the Kahr references. I was not aware of them at all and probably would not have found the Faraday Soc ref if I hadn't looked really hard.Wavefunctionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993805391653267639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-75272105433073140102008-04-27T13:06:00.000-07:002008-04-27T13:06:00.000-07:00I saw Bart Kahr (from University of Washington - r...I saw Bart Kahr (from University of Washington - research group web site here: http://faculty.washington.edu/annkurth/index.html) give a talk about this at UMass, Amherst (my current institution and soon to be alma mater). He also was fascinated with the CS hypothesis and, since he does research on crystal growth, sought to look at the phenomenon. What I got from his talk was that the replication does happen, but there are significant errors in duplication that cause the crystals to die off within a few generations. They would originate, if I recall correctly, from screw dislocations during crystal formation and then become larger and larger. Here's the paper he wrote about it: http://www.rsc.org/publishing/journals/FD/article.asp?doi=b616612c<BR/><BR/>It's interesting stuff. I got the impression from Kahr's talk that it was likely NOT the strongest origin-of-life hypothesis, but that his test obviously does not rule out the idea entirely.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07900798795026091987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-67339622784652426482008-04-23T15:14:00.000-07:002008-04-23T15:14:00.000-07:00They possibly could. There would naturally need to...They possibly could. There would naturally need to be some intervention by the experimenter. Then we could sit back and watch the show unfold...or not. The problem is that some intervention (controlled pressure, temperature, flow) would be necessary. The very word "controlled" would need a human being to watch. On the other hand, if that means an environment which has achieved equilibrium, that's a different matter.Wavefunctionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993805391653267639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-67094288689094865822008-04-23T09:24:00.000-07:002008-04-23T09:24:00.000-07:00Can those "theories" of how life originated from i...Can those "theories" of how life originated from inorganic/organic, achiral/racemic matter be falsified by controlled experiment without the involvement of an intelligent designer (i.e. the scientist who design the experiment)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com