tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post6369637283818328769..comments2024-03-25T09:11:17.877-07:00Comments on The Curious Wavefunction: "Arsenic bacteria": If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisiesWavefunctionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14993805391653267639noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-64727993540611086512012-06-06T09:53:17.521-07:002012-06-06T09:53:17.521-07:00There was no comment by the editors about my citin...There was no comment by the editors about my citing the blog. Originally the plan had only been to cite Á short rant about journal editors' since it reinforced my message that journals had to come to terms with sharing their ecosystem with forms of life that they consider to be inferior. It also gave me a chance to direct readers to a rather foolish and intemperate attack on bloggers by a journal editor who really should have known better. Writing about alkane/water partition coefficients got me thinking, "I'd written this before so why not just link Lipohilicity Teaser".<br /><br />Philip Ball mentions his blog (although doesn't cite specific posts) right at the end of his Chemical Review just before: '10. Note Added after ASAP Publication' and I think that it was a completely appropriate thing to do.Peter Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12180360326821860667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-14845053577339386882012-06-06T04:59:04.192-07:002012-06-06T04:59:04.192-07:00Interesting. I do remember reading Ball's arti...Interesting. I do remember reading Ball's article but didn't notice the blog citations. His blog is quite good although he updates very rarely. Did the editor/reviewers have anything to say about your unusual citation sources?Wavefunctionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993805391653267639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-57704061185304640392012-06-05T11:33:21.740-07:002012-06-05T11:33:21.740-07:00With respect to citing blogs in serious publicatio...With respect to citing blogs in serious publications, I did cite a couple of posts from my blog in a Persṕective ( http://dx.doi.org/10.1007/s10822-011-9515-0 ) written for the JCAMD 25th anniversary issue. I'll leave it to the readers of this column to decide whether that contribution should be considered to be serious.<br /><br />You may be interested to know that Philip Ball mentions his 'Water in Biology' blog ( http://waterinbiology.blogspot.com ) in his excellent 'Water as an Active Constituent in Cell Biology' Chemical Review ( http://dx.doi.org/10.1021/cr068037a ) although he does not actually cite specific blog posts.Peter Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12180360326821860667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-726931755753070442012-06-05T11:19:20.873-07:002012-06-05T11:19:20.873-07:00Keep us posted with the results of your experiment...Keep us posted with the results of your experiment although remember that Arsenic will make you deader than Erwin's cat even if Werner is not so sure.Peter Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12180360326821860667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-43833160238472475512012-06-05T08:11:39.451-07:002012-06-05T08:11:39.451-07:00One more thing: Arsenic. I'll bet that if th...One more thing: Arsenic. I'll bet that if the metal had been antimony or bismuth we never would have heard of it in the popular press.Patrick M. Dennisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-70153109455720260062012-06-05T07:41:45.175-07:002012-06-05T07:41:45.175-07:00I started my own little experiment, editing the Wi...I started my own little experiment, editing the Wikipedia page to reflect the recent results. Wonder how long it would take for someone to object and remove the edits.Wavefunctionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993805391653267639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-74924129537837000562012-06-05T07:41:01.211-07:002012-06-05T07:41:01.211-07:00Thanks, and I agree. Official death certificates h...Thanks, and I agree. Official death certificates have a ring that proclamations of death, no matter how thunderous, don't. I for one am glad that this episode will go down in history as a textbook case of bad science.Wavefunctionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14993805391653267639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-37776316511257313102012-06-05T06:02:44.954-07:002012-06-05T06:02:44.954-07:00I wonder if she'll be updating her wikipedia p...I wonder if she'll be updating her wikipedia page ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felisa_Wolfe-Simon )Peter Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12180360326821860667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9633767.post-26288461365295312452012-06-05T03:38:19.754-07:002012-06-05T03:38:19.754-07:00I think that some people will write off this Scien...I think that some people will write off this Science paper as "cheap" in the sense that the outcome of these experiments was not really in doubt and Science is almost obligated to publish these results. But the truth of the matter is that Redfield and coworkers have performed a valuable service to the community in taking the time to bury this controversy when everyone else had just left it for dead. When her paper is rightfully published in Science, it will be the official death certificate that everyone can reference in future work. Lord knows people won't be citing blogs (even Redfield's) in "serious" publications anytime soon.<br /><br />Also, fantastic post, Ash.Paulhttp://blog.chembark.comnoreply@blogger.com